Hey Chat Community —
This is the kind of piece that might ruffle some feathers... and that’s exactly why I’m writing and podcasting about it.
We need to stop selling women a version of equality that isn’t rooted in reality. What’s being pushed isn’t fairness, and it isn’t strength — it’s a fantasy wrapped in slogans.
In my latest Squared Circle Podcast episode talking about women’s wrestling in general and some Bully Ray comments, I dig into what it really means to be a woman in professional wrestling, why the equality conversation from a fans point of view has gone off the rails, and why thanking men for the space they helped create isn’t weakness and isn’t a pick me — it’s truth.
Let’s get into it.
🎙️ The Origin Story
I started this episode by saying what needed to be said:
"Let’s stop selling equality to women. Give them the truth. And let’s start thanking men in professional wrestling."
I’ve worked in all-women’s promotions. I’ve worked in co-ed locker rooms. I’ve seen firsthand what the good indies look like and what the bad ones look like.
And the truth is simple: shared space works.
Women in wrestling or at least the “women wrestling fans” don’t need to keep asking for separation in the form of all-women’s PLEs just to prove we belong. We already belong. We’ve been in the matches, the segments, the main events, the creative meetings. The men I’ve worked with? They treat me with respect. They support me. That’s real. And it’s the same across the board with their female co-workers.
But when people like Bully Ray say we don’t need women-only shows because women already belong — he gets attacked for "fragile masculinity."
That’s not activism. That’s projection.
🧠 The Equality Lie
Let’s be honest:
Equality of pay? Doesn’t exist the way people think.
Equality of opportunity? That’s not even realistic.
Equality of TV time? Logistically impossible in a timed, ad-driven business.
"On paper, it sounds great to have equality. But when you try to apply it in a republic (like the United States of America), it doesn’t work. Life is messy, chaotic, and merit-based."
Wrestling isn’t communism. You don’t get a push because of your gender. You get it because you draw, you deliver, you connect.
When women shout for equal pay without acknowledging differences in match draw, merch sales, or segment quality — it’s not empowerment. It’s entitlement.
And I say that as a woman in the business.
Let me and others earn a spot because we are dedicated to being alongside the men that gave us the space and time to blossom. They believed in us.
📊 Real Numbers, Real Rules
Contracts in wrestling are not universal. Some include royalties. Some don’t. Some performers sell out merch tables. Others barely move stickers.
Matt Cardona makes bank because he hustles. Are we really saying the indie girl next to him — who sells one pin — deserves the same paycheck?
That’s not equality. That’s delusion.
"If we’re going to talk about equal pay, we have to apply it across the board. That means Roman Reigns money for a rookie indie wrestler. Make it make sense."
📺 Equal TV Time Is a Myth
Want to know how wrestling works? You have a call time. You get your minutes. You stick to your time.
You don’t get 20 minutes on the mic just because the men did. You get it if your segment warrants it — if the story’s there, the heat is there, and the crowd cares.
Women have been all over WWE programming — Raw, SmackDown, NXT, Evolve, WWE podcasts, and more.
But no one talks about that.
Instead, they scream, “Where’s the women’s-only show?”
💬 The Bully Ray Debate
When Bully Ray said:
"I don’t think we need to single the women out anymore. They’ve proven themselves. They belong just like the men."
I agreed.
And someone came at me with:
“Thanking men for crumbs is silly.”
That line? That line hurt.
Because it erases every single moment I’ve worked, contributed, grown, and shared space with men who believed I belong. From the indies, to WWE, to the indies, to MLW, and beyond.
"It’s not crumbs. And I will always be thankful for the men who respected me enough to share that space."
📣 Final Thoughts: Teach Women the Truth, Not the Slogans
This isn’t an anti-woman post. It’s an anti-lie post.
We don’t empower women by feeding them equality buzzwords. We empower them by:
Teaching negotiation skills 📈
Building strong personal brands 🧠
Showing up and pulling weight in shared spaces 💪🏽
Investing in ourselves outside of the Internet 🌍
Don’t just chant equality. Live value.
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